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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:51 pm
by Samurai
The die has been cast...

I've gone to the polls, and you all know what I did. The points that Tempus has brought up just show even more clearly that what the people decide doesn't really matter.

By the way, after reading Ironfist's comment I checked the ballot for the CHP, but they don't appear to have a candidate in this riding. I did, however, see a candidate for the Marxist/Leninist party. The ballot looked like this:

Green party
NDP
Marxist/Leninist Party
Liberal Party

PC

The colours indicate where they fall on the political spectrum, just so you know that I wasn't trying to show that the PC stands out above the rest.

Does anyone see anything wrong with the balancing of the choices here? There is only one party that even "claims" to uphold traditional values. We might be better off to cut it back down to a two party system, like the US. At least that would prevent the Gov. General from putting a party into power that lost the election.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:48 pm
by Queen Zeus
I voted today !!!

One for Brian Masse and the NDP

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:16 pm
by Samurai
Maybe we should do a poll, to see who would have been elected if only forum members could vote. It might be interesting.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:43 pm
by THE JEW (RaVeN)
8:30-first legal cross-Canada broadcast.

Lib 22
Con 7
NDP 3
BQ 0

Con down 1, Lib up 1 in the Maritimes.

I'm surprised at the low NDP numbers for this region.


Quebec expected to start trickling in around 9:15.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:00 pm
by THE JEW (RaVeN)
Who the devil is the independent?

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:22 pm
by [PX]Kal Bob
Here is the Elections Canada site. It has upto the second results of the election:

http://enr.elections.ca/

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:16 pm
by THE JEW (RaVeN)
Minority for the Liberals. Ontario the surprise.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:23 pm
by Samurai
It is a sad day...For the 3rd or 4th time.

Time for plan B :twisted:

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:31 pm
by THE JEW (RaVeN)
Oxford Last updated: 23:10 ET

Party....................Candidate.................Votes.........% Votes


Canadian Action.....Alex Kreider................102........0.2
Christian Heritage Party Leslie Bartley.....1,468........3.4
Conservative.........Dave Mackenzie.......19,080......44.4
Green Party...........Irene Tietz................1,839........4.3
Liberal..................Murray Coulter.........13,155.......30.6
Libertarian.............Kaye Sargent...............208........0.5
Marijuana Party......James Bender..............762........1.8
N.D.P..................Zoé Dorcas Kunschner 6,378.......14.8

Total number of valid votes: 42,992




Aside: What's Harper's theme song? Seems familiar, but the cr@ppy sound off my tv doesn't allow me to figure out what it is.


EDIT:

I hate how the board doesn't uses spaces to space. :evil:

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:41 pm
by [PX]IronFist
Liberal Minority

All in all I am pretty happy, I think it's a good thing that the Liberals will have to answer to someone else. Also, this is going to be quite a tight minority for the them, looks like they might just barely make it by joining with the NDP (That independent guy could be the swing vote, lol). In 1979 when the Conservatives lost the vote of confidence they had 136 seats in the house.


Oxford
Last updated: 23:29 ET

Canadian Action.....Alex Kreider 106
Christian Heritage..Party Leslie Bartley 1,489
Conservative.........Dave Mackenzie 19,773
Green Party...........Irene Tietz 1,893
Liberal...................Murray Coulter 13,617
Libertarian.............Kaye Sargent 219
Marijuana Party.....James Bender 780
N.D.P....................Zoé Dorcas Kunschner 6,516
Total number of valid votes: 44,393

Kitchener--Waterloo
Last updated: 23:24 ET

Christian Heritage..Party Frank Ellis 370
Conservative.........Steve Strauss 16,923
Green Party...........Pauline Richards 3,238
Independent.........Ciprian Mihalcea 122
Liberal...................Andrew Telegdi 27,718
N.D.P.................... Edwin Laryea 9,132
Total number of valid votes: 57,503

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:45 pm
by THE JEW (RaVeN)
They could've had less and they'd still be sitting pretty like they are now. The NDP will almost never vote with the Tories and the Bloc most likely never will.

For a while there we were gonna have a Commie in. Would've been interesting. The non "big 4" had better turnouts this year.

EDIT:

Wow. The Grits had a very efficient vote. 37% to 45%.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:50 pm
by [PX]IronFist
I think that if the NDP and the Liberals can't form a coalition, there is a chance the Conservatives and the Bloc might allie just to force another ellection.

I wonder what voter turnout was like in the second election in 1979.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:51 pm
by Samurai
Preliminary Results
Chatham-Kent--Essex

Party__________Candidate___________Votes_____% Votes

Conservative......Dave Van Kesteren......16,726.......38.7
Green Party........Rod Hetherington.........1,812.........4.2
Liberal................Jerry Pickard...............17,122.......39.6
Marxist-Leninist...Margaret Mondaca........148...........0.3
N.D.P.................Kathleen Kevany..........7,411........17.1

Total number of valid votes:...................43,219

Polls reporting: 225/229

Voter turnout: 43,219 of 73,965 registered electors (58.4%)

The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.

TOTAL NATIONAL VOTER TURNOUT AS OF 12:32 AM.
Voter turnout: 12,453,198 of 22,295,670 registered electors (55.9%)

Post the voter turnouts for your respective areas, and we can keep a kalnet record of how poorly Canada showed its interest in government as a whole and in various areas.

From the voter turnout, I would say that between 40-45% of Canadians are anarchists, that is if I didn't already know they are too apathetic for their own good. If people want the country to fall apart because of governments that don't reflect the desires of the entire country, I say let them do what they want. They have no right to say anything when things don't go the way they want.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:54 pm
by [PX]IronFist
Samurai wrote:If people want the country to fall apart because of governments that don't reflect the desires of the entire country.


This will never happen, in any government, in any country, anywhere in the world. You cannot please all of the people all of the time.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:56 pm
by THE JEW (RaVeN)
[PX]IronFist wrote:I think that if the NDP and the Liberals can't form a coalition, there is a chance the Conservatives and the Bloc might allie just to force another ellection.

I wonder what voter turnout was like in the second election in 1979.


Most likely not gonna happen. The NDP realize their place.....the Liberals lap-dog this round. The Bloc might side with the Tories every now and then just to stir sh!t, but "Western cowboy" and "Snooty Frenchman" do not mix.