Bob Long Insight

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Bob's first spool only marker.
http://www.paintball-blog.allpaintballs ... n-new.html

Efficiency test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5amWK2M ... r_embedded

Explanation on how he increased efficiency and avoided paying Dye royalties:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7KEy2fN ... e=youtu.be

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Tips to address the early teething issues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2Xjs-dkC8

Review:

I really like the Insight, and think that once you have the latest flash, 5.19, and the 2x20 o-ring in the can to replace the 19 that is stock, it is a solid and reliable performer ... here are my thoughts on it that I wrote up for a High-end shootout. There are my opinions and as such some may not share them.

Visual and Tactile Impressions:
I was really looking forward to getting this marker in my hands and it did not disappoint. It has the same grip frame of the Victory so it is a tried and tested design that I find very comfortable. As with the Victories, the edges of the trigger frame, and back strap are rounded, the milling is elegant and refined. with the same wrap around grips of the newer Ripper and Vcom victories, it is a very comfortable marker to hold. The molded rubber is firm yet grippy and hold up better than the grips of the Ego 11 and Geo 3 over time. The milling over the rest of the marker is just as well done, but I'm not 100% sure it is my taste. It retains the same great feed neck of the Victories but looks a little more out of place than it did on the Victory. The front reg is extended to house the HPR and Schrader Valve and with the edition of an Exalt regulator grip is really comfortable to hold. Unlike the Victory, the Insight does not have a LPR, and therefore it is a shorter marker which really means the Schrader valve can not be housed in the main body, so it is the upper portion of the HPR and it works really well. All the parts that make up the main body are well milled and fit really nicely together; all have been rounded and Bob took the extra time toi get the milling right and finished. It is probably the second lightest marker on the list behind the Vapor, but feels really well built. The engine is very easy to access yet is really securely held in place when the marker is aired up. The only thing I'm iffy on is the trigger. I think I like the scythe trigger on the Victory platform better, but it will take actual game time for me to vet that out. The ASA is supper easy to use and is almost as user friendly as the POPS ASA of the Geo3 and Ego11. Other than the trigger, I think Bob knocked it out of the park on this one; only the $500 more expensive Luxe stands above it from a ergonomics standpoint ... Yes, the Luxe is $500 more than the Insight NG.

Regs, ASA and Internals:
The Insights Cam Drive ASA is the second best ASA on the market today. Very easy to turn on and off the air, and it completely purges the air from the marker. While not as simple as the front knob system of several of the markers reviewed the ease of use is a step above. The macroless design funnels air into without a doubt the best HPR on the market today. Overall it uses the same design as others on the list and the piston is fairly standard fair. What makes it the best is the Shim stack that is used in place of a spring. Springs loose tension over time, while a shim stack will retain it and more consistently over a longer period. I have never replaced a shim stack, but I have replaced 3 springs in HPRs. Another awesome feature is the Schrader Valve in the top of the regulator, also called the main valve, is a neat feature that allows you to air up the marker without the reg attached for any troubleshooting you nay need to do. There is no need to maintain that portion of the regulator unless you have other issues occurring. Internals are about as simple as the Geo3, and very easy to maintain. This is one engine that if you error on the side of using too much grease it is okay to do so. There are 5 Dynamic o-rings to grease and check after each day of play, there is nothing to the engine. Even though it is simple, you will need to clean and lube the engine after every day of play or you will have issues. This engine needs to be lubed. Some have had issues with early insights with the code on the board and the engine coming loose and causing shot drop off … with the recient change from using a 19 o-ring to a 2x20 in the can and a urethane 10 o-ring in the brass cutoff, all those issues have been resolved. The detent system is a rather standard spring assisted detent system which works really well. One minor issue is it is easy to loose a detent spring if you need to clean the eyes at the field.

Electronics:
The Insight NG uses the same basic electronics of the newer Victories, the Frenzy board, but it has some additional setting to help deal with a fast bolt system. It has a a great LCD screen in the back of the grip frame. While Bob Long markers do not come with a manual, they do include a sheet on the frenzy board and programing. Programing is SUPER simple to do and the changes are easy to verify using the LCD screen, I find the frenzy board to be as easy to program as the Ego11 or Geo3. There have been multiple revisions of the programming of the board to this point as Bob works some kinks of the new marker by adding some additional settings to allow for a more refined shot profile through the electronics. Innovation is clear to see as you scroll through the various settings you can change including where the text is displayed for right and left handed shooters. The Eyes are also supper simple to get to and clean, a system very much like the Victory.

Performance:
As I mentioned in the Vcom section, the Insight NG engine was a small redesign of the Vcom engine with efficiency in mind. The engineers at Bob Long wanted to design the most efficient spool valve they could, while keeping as much of the smoothness of the Vcom engine. The Insight NG spool is a great combination of relative smoothness and excellent efficiency. When I first put paint down range with the Insight it felt very much like a Geo 3 when firing. Over the course of three cases, the engine smoothed out to now feeing very much like a Luxe; a huge complement. I find that the Insight, like the Luxe provides the perfect amount of tactile feedback while having a rather quiet shot. While it doesn’t have the organic feel like the Luxe, it has the right amount of feedback and vibration that allows you to tell it is firing on all cylinders; the perceived recoil is all linear with no hint of muzzle rise at all. The shot sounds poppy but it is rather quiet at the same time; maybe a tad louder than the Luxe, but it is a great sounding marker. The one area that the Insight excels in is efficiency. The Insight achieves poppet like efficiency while retaining the properties of a world class spool valve.

Conclusion:
The Insight NG has had a rather troublesome teething period since its release in June 2013. With current upgrades to the board software with the 5.19 flash, and the replacement of two o-rings in the engine (the 19 to a 2x20 and replacing the 10 in the brass shutoff with a urethane 10) and the Insight is up and running 100%. The Insight was designed by Bob to be the most efficient spool valve out today and he nailed it. 1700 – 1800 (Hustle Paintball saw 1950 from theirs) rounds from a standard 68/45 is astonishing from a spool valve. It does this while still being a smooth spool valve as smooth as a Luxe using stock settings. Maintenance after each day of play is essential as you will need to relube the marker after every day of play or you will have issues. The Insight NG is for the player that wants an efficient spool that is still smooth and quiet and the player that wants a light high-tech marker that just does everything you could want from a paintball marker and does it well. Now that used Insights are in the $600 to $800 range, I feel it is the best value in paintball today.

I own two Insights for a reason. I find them to be excellent shooters; light and snappy. While the ergonomics are all personal I also find that they are natural to sight down and feels great in the hands. Since the introduction of the 5.19 flash and the use of the 2x20 o-ring in the engine, I have not had any issues of any kind with my Insights. I think y’all will be pleasantly surprised by the Insight; I think it is one of the best markers available today.

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Debounce: 12ms
Mech Debounce: 4
Trigger Filter: 6
Dwell: 12ms
Bolt Delay: 25ms
BD Delay: 8ms

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