HPA Fills Available

[[PX] Nebuchadnezzar]

I am very happy to announce that HPA tanks can now be filled on-site @ KTPPG.

Pricing is still up in the air because I don't know how many fills I can get out of 80cf.

I want to assure everyone that as with the CO2, the price will be very close to cost.

I am going to test @ $0.50/fill. Compare to $0.20/oz with CO2 and switch over to SAVINGS!

[Paragon]

Difference per fill 1.50 for my 12 oz CO2. HPA tank - approx $30. Therefore - In 20 fills I would break even. Since HPA lasts longer, at my current consumption rate it would take the better part of a year for me to pay off the new tank. I think I'll stick with CO2 for the time being.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Question:

What psi is the scuba tank? Thanks.

[[PX]Kal Bob]

Also do you have any stats on how many fills you get per tank?

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

See other thread on HPA.

EDIT:

Nevermind, see you found it.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Also do you have any stats on how many fills you get per tank?

As per the calculator (I picked the smallest scuba for a worst-case scenario):

Aluminium 80 (3000 psi) filling a 68ci tank from 0psi would have the first fill at 2713psi. The 20th fill would be at 402psi. The 10th fill is at 1098psi which I consider the cut-off what with everyone running Tippmanns. People with Vikings, G6R's, etc. could tap into that 20th fill, but that is pushing it (even with a Ninja SLP).

Looking at the chart, $6 nets us about 9 to 10 good fills. We can increase that by stacking scubas in series.

For example, 2 of the same aluminium 80 (3000 psi) tanks has a first fill at 2973psi, a 10th at 2148psi, and a 20th at 1175psi. You could probably get one or two more useful fills (ie. the "left-over" air adds up). If we ever got big enough that we needed more air, we would have a few options:

1. Shoebox for long-term air
2. Multiple scubas since we've already invested in one
3. People buy a fill at a store and then get an additional fill on site.

Numbers 1 and 2 depend on people (ie. it would likely be a group buy). Number 3 is the worst economic option. I *think* you pay $6 to fill either a scuba or an hpa tank. The scuba's a better value in that regard. If we got the Shoebox we should could get a bigger container than a scuba cheaper.

WWII STAINLESS STEEL CREW OXYGEN TANK B-17 FLYING FORTRESS BOMBER

$125 for a huge oxygen container.

[[PX]Kal Bob]

See other thread on HPA.

EDIT:

Nevermind, see you found it.

You miss understood, Showdesktop was keeping track of the number of fills and re-fills of his tank.
I wanted to know his real world numbers.

The calc is cool though lol.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

He only fills to 1000psi, though. Keep that in mind.

[[PX] Nebuchadnezzar]

He only fills to 1000psi, though. Keep that in mind.

I fill to whatever the PSI of the scuba is. For the first few, that's 3000. Then 2800, the 2600, and If it's really low, yeah 1000.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Ah, my misunderstanding then. Apologies. Do you have a count that you get then? What are the specs on the scuba?

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Hydro tests no longer required for containers less than 1L/61ci in Canada including common ones such as 45/4500, 48/3000, and 13/3000. Tanks over 15 years past the born date are still expired. Fields still reserve the right to a visual inspection.

http://www.badlandspaintball.com/blog-hydro-tank-update