[PX]Kal Bob wrote:THE JEW (RaVeN) wrote:Voting goes beyond a right.
It's a duty within a democratic society.
I thought that the whole point of a free society is the "free" part. Do people not have the freedom to not vote and to not be pestered by people about it?
This whole campaign to get people out to vote that don't want to seams rather hypercritical don't you think.
Nope. We have no ultimate freedom. Free speech, but not free beer. You can b!tch all ya want, but ya still gotta vote.
As a linux advocate this beer/speech thing should be extremely clear to you.
Ghost wrote:I disagree entirely. If don't feel that the government or any of the candidates don't reflect my views than it is my right not to vote. To suggest that its a duty to vote removes the point of democracy, if voting isn't voluntary then you aren't getting an accurate representation of the public and therefore democracy has failed.
Not voting because you're too lazy, I cant condone. Not voting because you don't want to scratch your ballot because that's a waste of time and that's all you intended to do anyways is your right as a citizen.
If you don't want to vote, you don't value the system by which we live. You're, therefore, against the order that it provides. You're either a part of it or you're not. We either jail, hang, or make you leave the country if you have no desire to stick to our rules. If it wasn't for all this hippy bullsh!t around today, I'd recommend enforcing it. Electronic voting makes excuses invalid. You can now vote whenever and wherever.
Not voting skews the system just as much (if not more-so) as full voting. If you don't like the candidates--run yourself. B!tching about "my time gets wasted" or "he just didn't seem like the right one" only gives me a vision of a woman with sand in her vagina. You're better than that.
Homey B wrote:You are completely right, all of the parties are base on the same Principal, Screw the Taxpayers. The only reason to vote in this scenario is to attempt to elect the dictator that will screw you the least.
Heaven forbid you actually get off your lazy @$$, run for election, and install the perfect dictator who meets all of your demands--you.
Vote for yourself. It is an option.
Besides, we make the "least screw" decision every day. I would love to have it that every morning I'm awakened by a beautiful buxom women sucking me off. Forget alarm clocks. A back tensing orgasm is what I'll take, thank you. Sadly, the option isn't on the ballot (I'm working on it though). So I could hook up a timed electric fence shocker to myself, have my father fire off 50 rounds every morning at 5am, or buy a $10 alarm clock. I compromised, but it works.
If Jodi is your alarm clock as in the situation described above................you lucky sonovab!tch.
I hate you.
Homey B wrote:That does not sound likely, the best people to do the job will be those that do it out of a sense of pride and love for there country. The demographics would not be a factor in this case.
Oh, let's all hold hands and sing around the flowers. Sense of pride and love? The dude who balances the budget, is the closest to my ethical systems, and provides me with the best living conditions is the better leader.
Artsy-fartsy hippy.
Homey B wrote:What is wrong with an Oligarchy? The first democracy was an Oligarchy and it is remembered as a shining example of the ancient world. Hell most people would tell you it is the kernel of all modern democracy.
Nothing..........as long as they've sided with me. Otherwise.............vive la resistance!
Rifles will be handed out at my place. Entrance exams will include ability to chug beer cans, shift a standard Trans Am, and a rebel yell to be bellowed out whenever the horn plays "La Cucaracha"...............all at the same time. With excessive amounts of practice, I firmly believe everyone here could make it. Sessions begin in August. Don't be late.
Homey B wrote:Related to this piece of mass media drivel, why should everyone have the right to vote? I still think that universal suffrage was a bad idea. It is quite simple, uniformed people should not be allowed to vote. Now before every gets on the whole "and you are informed bob?" bit, let me answer, No.
I think that only people who spend there whole lives studying non-partisan politics should be able to vote. the closes thing that we have today are PhD holders in Political Science. Also these people are far from what should be required!
I'm fine with limiting voters. The duty being of everyone--that's just our current system. You want to make it whoever pays taxes? Go nuts. However, political science? Fark that. We live in a world governed by violence and greed............and boobs, but I digress. Those who can provide such (more so the first 2....the 3rd are the spoils of the election victory.....at least, in my world they would be) for our causes can vote.
If people don't want to vote, take the right away from them. We'd both be happy. It would make setting up my slavery society far easier.
Homey B wrote:Also, while I am on a Rant:
Where the hell do people get the idea that if you don't vote you can't complain? That whole line of thought is bullsh*t. Be that reasoning only people who voted for the loser should complain at all!
The truth is, the people who have a right to complain are the people who paid for it! Anyone who pays taxes has a right to complain about how their money is being spent!
Your logic process from the 1rst 2 sentences to the 3rd lost me. Must be a history student thing. The losers voted--they can b!tch in your system. The winners voted--they can b!tch about their leader if they want. They both voted.
B!tch all you want. However, it will fall on deaf ears because
you didn't vote and nobody gives a flying fark in politics about people who don't vote. Unless you've got a nice set of tits.
And you don't.
*I'd make a "use Jodi to your political advantage" comment, but I'd just get slapped..........so I won't....................unless I'm drunk and horny................but that could make things really awkward............I think I'm slightly off topic...............next quote*
If ya wanna b!tch go right ahead. I'd ignore you, you'd become annoying, you'd annoy a lot of people, someone would come up with the bright idea of jailing all those who b!tch without voting, and then I'd send you to the cell with big black fairy Ralph.....................and he ain't called big because he's tall.
For your sake, I'd recommend you spit on his pecker first as any lube *might* prevent your @$$hole from getting torn in two. But I doubt it.
Also, why can't one b!tch through voting? I'm sure p!ssing and moaning with Jimmy down at the coffee shop will change everything. Heaven forbid you tell the elected leaders that you're p!ssed by voting for someone else.
Homey B wrote:Addition to my last post, when I said taxes, I mean real taxes such as Income. Not PST, and GST. No Americans can't vote in my system
Good.
